Hunter is just one of the people Ginny is lying to, but he's probably the most important; he's the only person who isn't lying to her, too.
Though she keeps her relationship with Marcus a secret from everyone, Hunter is the only one she's cheating on. When Hunter learns of her relationship with Marcus, he's upset, betrayed, and angry. For the most part, he treats Ginny well, far better than Marcus does, and he didn't deserve to be lied to or to be her second choice when Marcus didn't want a girlfriend.
Ginny leads him on because having a boyfriend is cool, and she often uses Hunter to make Marcus jealous, which is unfair after everything Hunter tries to do for her.
Though lying about her relationship with Marcus may not be the best thing for everybody, Ginny has her reasons for keeping it secret. For one thing, she's too afraid to ruin her friendships by telling the truth. This suggests that her new "friends" wouldn't be understanding of her situation, even though she interacts with Marcus before any of the others. Later, Marcus tells Max that it's no wonder Ginny was afraid to tell her about them because she doesn't have boundaries.
Because of Max's self-absorption, Abby's cruelty, and Georgia's tendency to blow things up, Ginny feels alone, unable to confide in anyone without fearing that her friends will abandon her.
Georgia may not be the best role model for her kids, but she does a lot for them - far more than they'll ever understand. Ginny is ungrateful and she often likes to show her resentment towards Georgia. Ginny insults her mom, tries to guilt-trip her, and complains about her to anyone who will listen.
Georgia can be very compassionate with Ginny, and she truly wants to know what's going on with her and why, but Ginny tries her best to drive Georgia away. It's unfair of her to treat her mother that way, especially when Ginny herself hasn't made the best choices. Gitten constantly singles Ginny out, making assumptions about her based on her race. The first time he meets her, he assumes she won't be able to keep up in his class , announcing this for the whole class to hear.
Respect Taylor Swift and respect women. Thank u, next. I decided to give this show a chance Ive now come to the conclusion that Netflix is now like say time soap operas for angsty millennial and teenybopper women much like the lifetime and O network was when cable tv was a thing. If this show is a reflection of our future, Id hate to see how our society is in 20 years.
This show was great but it was also a really good example of how adults don't know how teenagers act. Also Ginny was super annoying and Hunter deserved better.
I just finished Firefly Lane on Netflix and absolutely loved it. I kept opting out because I was expecting a cheesy comedy with some life lessons thrown in. I finally gave in and figured I'd give it a chance. I was pleasantly surprised by this show and binged it in a few days sensing a trend here. It has a lot going on. Despite so many plot lines, I absolutely loved this show. Kudos to Netflix because this is another solid show that I am saddened to have to wait for a season two.
The cast is great Ginny does get annoying after awhile, but she is a teen and that can be expected. The mother and daughter duo works brilliantly and both actresses knock it out of the park. The entire cast does. Georgia is brilliantly written; she has done some horrible things in life but I find myself rooting for her happiness. So this show covers it all; teen life struggles, parental struggles, single mom struggles, dark secrets, friendship, self harm, crime and love If I were in that demographic, I'm sure I would have enjoyed it quite a bit.
ACA13 14 March Really killing a rabbit because it's in your garden? Being bad and maybe a killer that is what they make you believe, I am only on episode 5 but can't take the Georgia mom because you had an abusive childhood? Georgia the mom dresses like a hooker and manages to fool almost everyone?
Don't recommend it at all. Another teenage know-it-all trying to prove she's better than everyone else. Think I'll wait til she grows up and faces the real world of work, bills, responsibilities. Maybe then she'll be less smarmy and annoying. Why are they promoting sex and drugs in this series fir young children and teenagers to think it is ok to take drugs.
Kaygee 2 March It touched on so many issues and portrayed teens accurately. If you were like me and skeptical about the series after the first few episodes, I highly suggest that you keep watching until the end. It will not disappoint. The teens are entertaining and for that reason I kept watching.
Basically every scene with Georgia made me cringe, but that's because of the script, her acting skills are fine. Although, the flashbacks of young Georgia were great. They actually made sense and provided more depth by portraying her trials and tribulations.
The flashbacks made her seem cunning, vulnerable, charming, and manipulative, which is the opposite of how Georgia's character was portrayed at present day. Here's why There are little things that happen that really bother me because it's so implausible and would never happen in real life. Like Georgia just walking into her neighbor's house to buy a ticket for her daughter. She literally knew her neighbor for less than a week Get real.
In this case, all three of them were acting like jerks, Molly was only acting somewhat civil out of politeness. People have flaws that are called out and virtues that are lauded. But yes, if it makes you feel better, I am among those that believe that Hermione went too far with Marietta esp since she was told by her mom to do it. Sorry but Harry is not someone she trusts in the first place and there was pressure at home and her family would have paid the price if Umbridge found her out.
If Hermione was afraid of people talking, it would have been better to A give a clear warning on consequences and B make a plan for people who felt that the risks and problems that come with being a part of an illegal club are not worth it and want out while staying neutral and silent. Harry who publicly repudiated Cho for talking to Umbridge when it was very clear through body-language that she was roughed up and probably talked under blood-quill-induced-torture if not Crucio since Umbridge proved to be very willing to use it.
That was basically the moment I gave up on movie! Harry for the self-centered asshole he is. But, again, this is movie-verse so… yeah, you can ignore this paragraph. Fleur was a tourist and a competitor on top of being a teenager running her mouth off still in school. By HBP, Fleur has lived and worked in England for at least a year and a half, that sort of change would obviously produce a change in her and her competitive attitude about England and the English.
Not to mention the whole last task and the Gabrielle task had already given her a taste of humble pie. Meanwhile, on Zacharias. When I first read it, I got a flashback to first year Draco hexing Neville because he annoyed him. That was my knee-jerk echo.
Bat-Bogey seems to imply a lot of body modifications to hurt the target. Sorry, but the Female Violence on Male is OK Trope outside of combat or in real legitimate my life is in danger self-defense is not one I endorse. I realize this is subjective and people can have a different opinion than me, but this still remains my opinion. What about in OotP Zacharias?
Because he decides to stay neutral until he figures out what the hell is going on? Because he decided life is too damned short? Cedric was the Hufflepuff Quidditch Captain on top of a very beloved figure in his house. And then he died and Harry is the only witness. Are you saying that Harry and co. I doubt that. The papers and the media and the propaganda from either side! The only one who could tell the truth is the one who actually saw it. The fact that Harry could not really take any skepticism without giving the skeptic a valid reason to believe in him did not make him an effective leader.
Rowling had a moment for Harry to earn the loyalty of others by telling what actually happened to them in person. It instead became an attack those who disagree with Harry moment. So you asked why I rag on Ginny the most when there are others?
Meanwhile, Harry Potter started and ended as a Morality Tale, where good deeds get rewarded and bad deeds gets punished. Evil and violent characters, for the most part, get a karmic punishment. Even people who are simply unpleasant get a little bit of karmic punishment or at least get served a humble pie like Fleur in GoF, hence why she changed her attitude.
Ginny is the biggest blip on this. So they, as characters, still follow the Morality Tale logic of the world and narrative they live in. Ginny, in being given special treatment from the narrative at all times, does not. I always thought Harry should have fallen in love and married to Luna, instead of Ginny, because Luna is a character much more interesting, unique and charismatic than Ginny, in my humble opinion.
Ten years later, I hold the same vision. Agree with your post. I never cared what Ginny did till HBP. During discussions, her comments felt more like fillers. I found her to be just another member of the DA, who was simply good at some kind of a hex.
So far, she was just another stone statue, standing there doing nothing. No possible foreshadowing yet, though I think I should have found negligible traces in the fifth book.
Hell even Ernie Macmillan and Colin Creevey were better defined and foreshadowed. The moment that Colin was introduced in the book, I knew that something worse was going to happen to him as the story progressed and he did die. And then came HBP, and everything went bang out of order. I guess I would have lusted after her myself after watching her in the movies Bonnie Wright is reasonable hot! So, over the later parts of the book, I was force-fed the junk that some would call Hinny romance.
Needless to say, I despised it. I doubt Harry should even have felt physical attraction toward her. I simply could not connect to the Hinny romance. However, the Hinny stuff ruined it for me big time. This was all for the Ginny in the books. Bonnie Wright could hardly have made justice to her role given the poor character development in the books.
Ginny Weasley was a pointless character and Rowling said she was important. But I guess it show Rowling had no confidence to juggle seven main characters. And I agree that Harry and Ginny should never have gotten together and every time I think about how Harry is suddenly in love with her I just cringe.
But I guess Rowling lacks the ability to handle romance too. You hit the nail on the head. I actually liked Ginny cause she was shown as caring towards Luna and Neville and called Harry out on his angst when no one else did but all of a sudden in Book 6, she gets turned into a Mary Sue with so much talent and looks and a fan base!
Maybe it was because Harry went from not noticing her to becoming infatuated with her but JK was really forcing it. He slowly grew more affectionate for her enough to later name his daughter Lily Luna.
I loved Ginny up to Book 5 but after that, she suddenly became the prize perfect girl for Harry that JK forced together because she wanted to tie them together neatly.
I wanted him with Luna. Harry Potter is the only series where I pretty much hated almost every character but still read every book and watched every movie. That was not a mistake. I cheered for him till the end but it was exhausting. It was very difficult but I kept hoping and hoping that Harry and Luna would get together somehow and my hopes rose up when Ginny and Harry broke up I know it was supposed to be a heartbreaking scene or something but I had the hugest grin. Oh well. I survived.
Bring on Fantastic Beasts. I feel like, plot-wise, the series hit its peak with GoF and OotP and then it went downhill. I remember reading the HP fanfiction while waiting for Book 6 and honestly I liked not only the more true to fantasy style that some ficcers brought to the table, but also they made fanon! Harry someone I could root for by making him more proactive and independent.
The rest needed a complete rewrite. Ginny was introduced as a fangirl, which is all well and fine but she never grew out of her fangirlism, as shown from her last words to Harry in book 7. They never make any emotional connection, they got together purely on lust, not because of any kind of romantic feelings. Not to forget it also kinda undercuts the whole idea that the Weasleys love Harry and unconditionally consider him to be family, because the moment Rowling had Harry marry Ginny she made his relationship with the Weasleys conditional.
Harry never noticed her but there was never a reason to. In fact she grows out of it in book 2 judging by her extreme change of personality around him. If anything those words actually show how deeply she understands him and their shared experiences and morality.
Vastly different to the Ginny we see in the books. Again, read the last scene between them in book 6. There clearly is an emotional connection there, as well as several scenes in books 5 and 7. Books 2, 5, 6, and 7 contradict this. If you say that about Ginny, you could also say the same thing about a whole lot of characters. It was Fleur who was constantly being condescending and rude to Ginny. So you single Ginny out just based on a few bad moments?
To make things worse Ginny outright admits that she never stopped liking Harry, and considering the fact that she has had very little interaction with him there is no chance for her attraction to grow into something genuine. On that same subject Harry and Ginny actually never talk on an emotional level as their interactions consist of either Harry ignoring her or sucking her face.
In book 6 Ginny outright says that she never stopped hoping that Harry would notice her, and again considering how her crush on Harry was always framed as a celebrity crush it undercuts any validity to the idea that it was genuine.
And in book 7 well see the above reply I gave about it. He never noticed her until then, in fact he never even thought to ask her out to the Yule Ball, he was too busy crushing on Cho. Frequently when adaptations are made things are removed combined and change to better suit the change in medium.
Ginny would get written out in favor of saving time and money. What ends up happening is that you end up in your place, you attempt to make excuses for her negative aspects based not on the books but on your own interpretation. Look at the difference between her reaction to him in book 1, and her reaction to him in book 2.
It is a complete Someone who was hero-worshipping Harry would behave like Ginny in book 1, or Colin in book 2, or Romilda in book 6. Harry even says so himself in book 4. And you are right about the little interaction between them until book 4.
But starting from book 5 this is no longer the case. So it did indeed grow into something genuine. It means she understands that his morality will not permit him to leave the job undone, to let Voldemort carry on with his rampage. While she may not agree with his reasons for leaving her, she definitely understands them, as they have similar experiences and a shared morality.
Not a fangirl. You were talking about the general plot. He may have not noticed her romantically until book 6, but he did still notice her. Actually, it does matter that it was Ginny.
Look at the reasons for which it was her who was chosen by Lucius, for political reasons as well as wanting to pick the youngest or female of the Weasley family; because he would view her as the weakest or most vulnerable. Again, you can say this about a whole load of characters.
You cannot have it both ways. And there is development for the relationship, actually in all of the books there is something that contributes to why they end up together. You can say the same thing about Neville too.
We only see one conversation between him and Harry. Again, reread book 4. There is plenty of proof there for Fleur acting very badly, so your claims that Ginny may be lying are unfounded. So anyone who would have ended up with Harry would have suffered that fate.
She is a major character. There are quite a few positive examples, such as her cheering Ron up after asking Fleur out, comforting the girl in the battle, standing up to fascist murderers with her friends, standing up for Harry in Flourish and blotts, etc. I pointed out the facts. Everything said was based on the books. Thinking that Ginny was a fangirl for her whole school life is also not based on the books. I read the books as they came out, as a kid starting at about age 7.
Which is how they were intended and the best way, as they gradually get darker as you get older. So, being a kid, I pronounced Ginny wrong. I was saying Gih-nee. Not Jin-ee. So when I found out around book 4 or 5 or something it was Jin-ee, I was kind of miffed. Also, growing up with the books, I originally saw Ginny as a kind of annoying little sister, or fangirl — you can imagine posters of boybands on her wall or something.
In fact, I seem to remember in one of the books Harry does notice posters of a band on her wall. The thing is, year-old fangirls grow out of it, and never actually end up with Donny Osmond. You grow out of preteen crushes.
Then also around book 5 onwards, Ginny becomes really dislikable. She is mean to Fleur, she is sarcastic and kind of holier-than-thou, she is fairly nasty to Ron, she goes out with what seems like dozens of boys and somehow still has that preteen fangirl thing for Harry?
Who she is also kind of a bitch to as well, to boot. She even lashes out at Hermione!! Then also, the actual romance between Harry and her is kind of out the blue in book 6.
There was next to nothing in the previous 5 books to indicate he saw her as anything other than a sort of little sister, or just a background character. He more than once admires Luna in this way.
Certainly she is much nicer than Ginny Weasley, who got into the Slug Club for… casting a nasty spell on someone.. I mean… was J. She really does just seem like a really nasty person. Even, as someone says above, her defending of Luna does seem kind of holier-than-thou, and you very much get the feeling — actually you do see evidence — that she laughs at her and calls her Loony.
Harry never calls her Loony. But alas, I disgress. Actually, Harry-Hermione makes more sense than Harry-Ginny…. Everyone knows him but few people actually like him.
He has suffered visions, insomnia, searing head pain, encounters with giant snakes and spiders, and the most powerful, most evil Dark wizard Of All Time keeps popping up in his finals week to kill him!!
Ls at all!! Harry is not boyfriend-material. But back to the actual point… yes, there was one…. Ginny — the actress, is really wooden. But she Bonnie Wright did nothing for my impression of Ginny. Ginny is actually one of the few characters in J. On first reading, and still now. Harry basically randomly started fancying her in book 6 and I was unimpressed. You know what, I named my cat Ginny hate the character, love my cat, and little 12year old me liked the name.
Like, whaaat? Nothing wrong with being sarcastic. Also where did she have a holier than thou attitude? If anything she was not the typical popular girl and had Neville and Luna as her best friends.
Firstly siblings do have this kind of competitive relationship. Where are the dozens? Firstly you talk as if Ginny should look up to Hermione as a superior rather than as an equal. Secondly you miss the whole context. It was Hermione herself who wrongly brought up Quidditch. Not Ginny. So Ginny should not be blamed for something that Hermione herself brought up. In every single book there is proof leading up to them getting together. You also forget the change of perception he had of Ginny in OoTP.
Where is Harry attracted to Luna in terms of personality? Even he thought that Luna was somewhat out to lunch. He definitely appreciates her as a friend in the later books, but other than that there is not a singlt thing that would put her above Ginny. Actually, Harry-Hermione makes more sense than Harry-Ginny.
So two characters who see each other as siblings make more sense than two characters who understand each other like soulmates, are physicall attracted to each other, have the same sense of humour and same hobbies? What is disturbing is that in-universe prejudice blood prejudice, mixing racial prejudices are endorsed by our very heroes throught their actions and thinkings. When I read the Quidditch comment by Ginny to Hermione with Harry happy feeling, it was the last stroke to the whole disaster moral trainwreck that is HP.
No real evolution, no real moral challenges and grow. Hate is a strong word for me… but I certainly have to agree that she was my least favourite character and certainly from Book 5 onwards started displaying traits of a Mary Sue.
Oddly enough I liked her in Chamber of Secrets, she was kind of relateable there. Away from home and homesick, awkward and dorky around the boy she had a crush on, there was just something nicer about that Ginny — although I still never shipped her with Harry. Book 5, and particularly 6 were absolutely shocking though. I always kind of liked the theoretical example of Luna and Harry, she seemed to be the only character that accepted Harry on face-value, she never caused drama or bossed Harry around, what other characters needed to yell at him, Luna seemed to be able to communicate in small gestures or actions, helping Harry come to the right conclusion himself.
Loads of fan fictions say that all Potter men are cursed to end up with redheads. Is it true? Lily on the other hand has dark red hair and green eyes. Surely a better argument can be made, specifically comparing their personalities and family backgrunds. Both are fierce, strong-willed, stubborn etc Gryffindor traits, really. But while Lily was gentle, Ginny was quite brusque with people.
And while Ginny hero-worshipped Harry, Lily actually really disliked James for a long time. If Neville had been the boy-who-lived, she would have probably ended up married to him as well. She fell for him because he was famous. I am not sorry for not liking her. It's my opinion.
Everyone hates a character, why shouldn't I as well? She's also very bland and boring. I just really can't stand her. And I have a heart, just because I don't like Ginny bloody Weasley, doesn't make me a horrible person. I just really don't like her. This, I totally agree. Spikegilfer said: People with brusque personalities either make fast friends or rub people the wrong way.
I'm mostly fine with her, but that point when they are practicing quidditch and she keeps calling Ron a prat and thinks a witty quip allows her to get away with disobeying a direct order from the captain makes me want to break her nose. Flickerflame said: I don't hate her - I like her - but I've heard several people's reasons for disliking her, so I'll list them.
I don't think hardly any of them are for her "being on the good side". If it was, wouldn't they hate loads more people? Some people just dislike her portrayal in the movies. They think she was acted blandly and without character, and dislike her for that. I've seen some say they hate her because she's the reason Molly fought and killed Bellatrix. They love Bellatrix so much they hate anyone in connection with her death. Others hate Ginny over the pairing issue. Others call her a Mary Sue.
They say she's portrayed as too perfect, from book 6 onwards. I think she's just described flatteringly because it's from the POV of someone who's in love with her, though. Also, apparently having 3 different boyfriends through the books makes her a slut I wonder who doesn't like her for that reason in the third paragraph.
Not just you, I've seen others here. Flickerflame posted over a year ago. I hate book Ginny because she whines wayyy too much. Example in the chamber of secrets she whine in the diary how Harry Potter would never like her and in the goblet of fire how she like oh Neville invited or else I could have never gone to the yule ball.
When Harry said that Cho turned down his invitation to the yule ball Ginny stopped smiling and I was like seriously you can't comfort him and instead embarrass him and Ron in front of Hermione. One of the most annoying parts with her whining or more, raging, is when Sirius is about to tell Harry a little bit about the order of phoenix and Ginny has to leave and she basically destroys everything in her way while screaming. And then she makes fun of Fluer and how she would rather have tonks in the family when fluer actually helped.
Ginny was just like a bother in the book. She's only useful in being an obstacle for harry she barely did anything!
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